News letter: Impeachment hearings, Stephen Miller E-Mails, Google-Health-data
DAVID GREENE, HOST:
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NOEL KING, HOST:
Right. It was a further telephone conversation with President of the Trump. This is not the 25. July call that we heard so much. And it was mentioned by William Taylor; he is the acting U.S. Ambassador to the Ukraine. He was one of two witnesses who testified yesterday. The other George Kent Department of State officials of Ukraine.
GREENE: And NPR’s political reporter Tim Mak has it all. Hey, Tim.
TIM MAK, BYLINE: Hey, there.
GREENE: OK. So, the two witnesses, the spent yesterday hours behind closed doors answering questions. So in addition to live radio, live TV and in front of the cameras, we have something new to learn from yesterday? What exactly this revelation was?
MAK: So, on the day after, the now-famous July, there were 25 telephone conversation between the Ukrainian President and the President of Donald Trump, another call. Taylor said one of his employees happens to be a conversation between US Ambassador to the EU, Gordon Sondland and Trump. And during this call could hear in a restaurant, the employee, Trump’s questions about the investigations. Sondland President, Trump said that the Ukrainians were ready to move forward, according to the statement. Here’s what happened next.
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WILLIAM TAYLOR: after the call of President Trump, the member of my staff asked Ambassador Sondland, President Trump thought about the Ukraine. Ambassador Sondland answered that President Trump cares more about the investigations of Biden, Giuliani was pushing for.
GREENE: OK, Tim, so this could be significant. We should say that this is Taylor at the hearing, referring to a call, was he -that his aide-de-camp heard. Right?
MAK: That is correct. So, Taylor, you didn’t – was not directly in contact with the President, but Sondland was in contact with the President. And the legislators have a chance to ask, Sondland to next week, when he – when he appears before the Committee in open setting, as he has expected, at a later date. And the House Intelligence Committee has also made plans to interview the member of staff that listened to apparently, this exchange. He
GREENE: Interesting. OK. So we are going to learn a lot more of this call of people
Everything is in order. So how have Democrats and Republicans, the overall concept of the survey yesterday???
MAK: Yes. Democrats tried two things show that the President was the use of US foreign policy for political gain and that is a impeachable offense. And the Republicans, on the other hand, were sort of the breeding problems with the credibility of the witnesses. Here is Republican Congressman Jim Jordan.
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JIM JORDAN: Mr. Ambassador, you were not on the call, you? The President – you didn’t listen to President Trump’s call and President Zelenskiy call.
TAYLOR: I have not.
JORDAN: you have never
TAYLOR: I never did it.
JORDAN: made never the President.
TAYLOR: That’s right.
JORDAN: you had three meetings, again with Zelenskiy, and it does not come.
TAYLOR: And the two of them they had never heard before, as far as I know. So there was no reason for him to come.
JORDAN: And the President Zelenskiy never made an announcement. This is – this is what I can’t believe it. And you are their star witness.
MAK: So, Democrats shot back that they testify, witnesses with first-hand knowledge, but people with first Hand knowledge of how the Deputy White house chief of staff Mick Mulvaney, have refused to.
Another point was the Republicans that the help was released, no investigation, ultimately came from the Ukrainian side, and, thus, no misconduct is ultimately occurred. A Democrat responds, in essence, look, tried to bribe can be a crime only as a bribe is also a crime.
GREENE: All right. So you mentioned that Sondland is one of the witnesses, which we could hear. What else is to come? I mean, this is – yesterday was just the beginning. Right?
MAK: that’s Right. We expect to hear of Marie Yovanovitch. She is the former U.S. Ambassador to the Ukraine. She’s going to testify – to bear witness to planned to this Friday. And we have
GREENE: much, much more. NPR’s Tim Mak. Thank You, Tim.
MAK: Thank you.
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GREENE: All right. So the Southern Poverty Law Center, it is expected that the publication of more E-Mails today, from a President Trump’s top Advisor for immigration – E-Mails, it is called the document an affinity for white nationalism.
KING: that’s Right. The center says there are hundreds of these E-Mails. They are the ones who sent Stephen Miller, to Breitbart a journalist. And in them, the Southern Poverty Law Center, says there are a number of references to white nationalist ideas. Therefore, at this point, some Democrats in Congress, Müller ask for the resignation. The White house calls this is a very left-wing smear. And Stephen Miller, for the moment, is not nothing to say.
GREENE: All right. KPBS reporter Jean Guerrero has a lot to learn about Stephen Miller. You write a book about him. She joins us from San Diego. Hi, Jean.
JEAN-GUERRERO, BYLINE: Hi.
GREENE: So you have checked actually, some of these leaked E-Mails were from the Southern Poverty Law Center. What is in them?
GUERRERO: That’s right. There are E-Mails, the Miller Breitbart editors sent in the years 2015 and 2016. For me the instructive part, that Miller recommended the book “camp of The saints.” It is run over a racist book, which also shows the, quote, “in the white world,” according to the refugees. It is filled with descriptions that are horribly degrading. Just as an example, it is migrants describes as, quote, “kinky-haired, dark skin color, long phantoms” and “the teeming ants toiling for the white man’s solace despised.”
Stephen Miller told Breitbart, a story shows Parallels between the book and real life. And then say to Julia Hahn, who was later a special assistant to President Trump, a story that immigration could doom society, just like in the book. And then Bannon, who is the Breitbart News Executive, also began to was Steve, about the book after that. Bannon was later Trump, chief strategist, but left in the year 2017.
The E-Mails also show that Miller had to pull out encouraging, Breitbart news, the white supremacy website that promotes the good replacement theory. This is a conspiracy that says that people of color are systematically the destruction of the white race, a falsehood that motivated white terrorist shoots.
GREENE: Wow. OK. There is a lot there.
So this Stephen Miller E-Mails, how did SPLC get it?
GUERRERO: Yes. So a journalist by the name of Katie McHugh worked Breitbart at the time. Breitbart editors they hired Miller as a someone, the influence on the direction of their reporting. McHugh was fired, in the year 2017 for anti-Muslim tweets, and has refused since then, on the extreme right-wing movement. She shared her Breitbart E-Mails with the SSPS. And I said to her, and she says Miller expressed a real familiarity with white supremacist literature. There are more than 900 E-Mails, and the Southern Poverty Law Center, plans to roll out slowly, including some new that his coming should be out today.
GREENE: what in these E-Mails line up with what you have learned about Stephen Miller in her reporting for the book?
GUERRERO: Yes. The E-Mails are in line with some of my reporting about him. Miller has long been influenced by the ideas of the USA as a nation, forged by the white men, and they should keep the heritage. At the time that these E-Mails were sent out, Miller worked for Alabama Senator Jeff Sessions, and then he joined the trombone campaign in January 2016. It is worth noting that, after the E-Mails were sent, Breitbart did, publish articles in accordance with them.
GREENE: Can you remember what his role is in the trump administration now?
GUERRERO: Yes. He’s the White house, the main policy adviser on immigration. We see what has been included in the E-Mails in the trump suit is the immigration policy. Trump often says, he concentrated on the stopping of people in the United States illegally, like criminals and drug dealers. But they are also sharp boundaries of legal immigration, which reflect some of these ideas about limiting the flows of people from nonwhite countries.
GREENE: KPBS reporter Jean Guerrero. Thank You, Jean.
GUERRERO: Thank you.
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GREENE: Important question here – is Google the backup of the medical data of millions of U.S. patients? A Federal regulatory Agency wants to know the answer.
KING: Yes. So, here’s what’s going on. Google is a data-sharing partnership with a large U.S. health network. This partnership is the Nightingale as a project. An office in the Department of health and Human Services is concerned about the privacy and examines. And we should note that Google is one of NPR’s financial supporters.
GREENE: All right. We bring in NPR tech correspondent Shannon Bond, to talk about it. Hey, Shannon.
SHANNON-BOND-AUTHOR: Hey, David.
GREENE: All right. So, what is this project of Google called project Nightingale?
BOND: This is the deal made by Google, with the rise of the large, Catholic health care system that operates hospitals and doctors’ says offices in 20 States and DC, Google, to manage that there is a contract, and the rise of the clinical data. So, the test results, hospitalization records, treatment of records – you know, your whole health history. The companies say they work together to ensure that doctors have access to all patient records.
GREENE: Yes, that’s Google to do anything you have to say about the patient to help.
BOND: Yes. They say they are working on it, artificial intelligence tools, which could analyze these entries and suggestions about treatment. This was for the first time, The Wall Street Journal reported this week, and Google confirmed it. And you know, just the scene a little – you know, as everyone knows, dealing with a doctor’s office or a hospital knows, many of these systems are very fragmented, that is to say, one of your…
GREENE: Like total Chaos sometimes.
BOND: that’s Right. And your doctor may not know what is going on elsewhere, type in their health. And so all these health-care providers to move to electronic records in the cloud. And tech companies see the this as a huge business opportunities, not only for Google, but other tech giants, too. Amazon, Apple, Microsoft – they’re all racing to in health care.
GREENE: OK. So, what’s the big worry here?
BOND: Well, it’s really privacy. You know, Google already knows so much about all of us. And now we are talking about medical history, health information. The confidential stuff. Critics ask, what could Google do? And it’s latest announcement comes on the heels of Google’s, that the purchase of Fitbit, which makes fitness trackers. And, you know, Google is to spend $ 2 billion on the business.
GREENE: OK. So some of the privacy concerns – what is the law? I mean, that is what Google is doing here legal?
BOND: Yes. I mean, Google and sky drive say that they are protected under Federal law, the laws of privacy of the patient, the address directly these things. And Google says that it is, indeed, similar work with dozens of other health care providers.
But this week, the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, as you mentioned, you have more information about want, such as Google and the rise of collect these medical records, to ensure that you are, in fact, according to the law.
Senator Mark Warner from Virginia said, Google and the ascension should stop the project completely, while it is checking. He told CNBC that he was worried about the patient and whether they are enough Google informed the access to your data.
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MARK WARNER: it Should be done without consent? And it should be done, where we are-frankly-a strengthening of the already dominant platforms, without competition?
BOND: And critics say, Google – it is not only that Google, you know, not questions about the data, it is also a great track record on privacy. It is, in fact, been sued over it – how health data is handled for a research project with the University of Chicago. Google has denied these allegations.
GREENE: NPR tech correspondent Shannon Bond. Shannon, thank you. We appreciate that.
BOND: Thank you.
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